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memebogus
Junior Member

USA
23 Posts

Posted - Apr 29 2004 :  1:01:03 PM  Show Profile
When I hit Alt-left arrow to jump to a previous edit position , then let up on the arrow key followed by the Alt key, a question mark gets inserted into the current file. Build 1230, VS7.1, C++.

feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
18939 Posts

Posted - Apr 29 2004 :  1:07:49 PM  Show Profile
that doesn't happen here, thankfully, VS .NET 2003, C++ and VAX 1233

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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LarryLeonard
Tomato Guru

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - Apr 29 2004 :  1:10:56 PM  Show Profile
Me neither, same config as feline...
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Uniwares
Tomato Guru

Portugal
2321 Posts

Posted - Apr 29 2004 :  1:17:35 PM  Show Profile
Works fine for me too under the same config. What annoys me much, much more, is that VS.NET inserts () when you DONT select an entry from the completion list, but rather move the caret away from the current location. The brackets are inserted at the new caret position. Besides, they shouldnt be inserted at all.
But this is a bug that happens without VAX too. Blame MS for it.
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memebogus
Junior Member

USA
23 Posts

Posted - Apr 30 2004 :  1:40:31 PM  Show Profile
The problem happens when I use the arrows from the numeric keypad. Using the dedicated arrow keys doesn't seem to cause a problem. I remember this working properly in VS .NET.
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Old as dirt
Tomato Guru

USA
246 Posts

Posted - Apr 30 2004 :  1:53:03 PM  Show Profile
I also get the ? with alt_numeric_Up and alt_numeric_Down
With or without Num Lock. Build 1233. VS6

Ken
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
18939 Posts

Posted - May 04 2004 :  06:11:52 AM  Show Profile
reproduced here also with VS .NET 2003 and VAX 1233

interestingly disabling VAX makes no difference, so it is possible that this is a VS problem, and nothing to do with VAX

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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jpizzi
Tomato Guru

USA
642 Posts

Posted - May 04 2004 :  12:36:45 PM  Show Profile
Well, I have a couple of observations that may explain the way that VS is acting.

First, the default shortcut key for "Navigate Backward" (in .NET 2003) is ctrl+-.

Second, the default action for alt-<any keypad number> is to start the sequence to insert an "extended" character. <speculation mode> Since you simply type "4," Windows cannot print the (control) character, so it prints a "?" to indicate the failure. </speculation mode> The toggle state of the numlock is not relevant to this.

Joe Pizzi
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support
Whole Tomato Software

5566 Posts

Posted - May 05 2004 :  12:29:35 AM  Show Profile
We believe Joe's assessment is correct.

Our navigation commands are not available for assignment in VS.NET. We simply made Alt+Left and Alt+Right work for our old customers who were accustomed to the behavior.

VS.NET has its own navigation commands which are reasonably good. MS navigates well within a file. VA X navigation, on the other hand, jumps back to previous files. Both systems work well. Preference is a matter of taste, or habit. Navigate within a file or among files?

We will expose our navigation commands. A side effect of doing so is making Alt+Numeric Left and Right work.

ixBug=27

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