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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
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 Posted - May 02 2004 : 06:07:45 AM
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Build 1233
Fixed problem with tooltips during debugging introduced in build 1232.
Objection, your honor!
Tooltips in Debugging now completely f****d up!
In 1232, sometimes the Value of the Variables was shown, in 1233, NO values are shown anymore!
All I get in debugging is the definition/declaration of the Variable (like "static int iError=0;")...
VA_X 1233, Visual Studio .NET 2003, Windows XP Prof. SP1
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Edited by - WannabeeDeveloper on May 03 2004 07:16:11 AM |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2004 : 07:17:50 AM
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*Sisyphos pushing up...*  |
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LarryLeonard
Tomato Guru
USA
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 09:59:52 AM
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I can't get this to fail in 1233/.NET 2003/XPSP1, and it was definitely broken for me in 1231 (or was it 1232?) Have you tried rounding up the usual suspects (cleaning, rebuilding, etc.)? Is there something special about your project? Got any other add-ins installed (just kidding!  )...
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 12:26:23 PM
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Hmm... I'll see if cleaning up solves the problem. Thanks for the suggestion...
Hmmm, anything special about my project? Well, it's my "life-time project", you know, a piece of software which is your biggest up to now, if that matters...
Nothing special about it (except that you "experienced and professional" software developers would laugh your a$$ of if you'd see the source  )... just kidding... 
And no, as stated in a famous book:
"Thou shalt not have any other add-ins installed than VA_X..."  |
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Uniwares
Tomato Guru
Portugal
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 12:45:33 PM
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Originally posted by WannabeeDeveloper
(except that you "experienced and professional" software developers would laugh your a$$ of if you'd see the source )...
Its commercial grade software already?  |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2004 : 12:48:49 PM
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Just checked it, it doesn't give me the values in the debuuger even in clean, fresh, new projects (did a small "Hello World!" project just to test it!).
Of course not commercial...
But the results we get from it are used commercially... does that count?
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Edited by - WannabeeDeveloper on May 03 2004 12:49:54 PM |
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LarryLeonard
Tomato Guru
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 12:51:06 PM
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2004 : 12:58:20 PM
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Originally posted by LarryLeonard
This is probably a dumb question, but does disabling VAX fix the problem?
Good point, I don't have ANY Tooltip with VA_X disabled...
Jesus, what is it this time... again... 
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support
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 3:37:14 PM
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We are trying to reproduce the problem.
Let us know if you find more clues. |
Whole Tomato Software, Inc. |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2004 : 3:44:02 PM
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The Problem is:
Disabling VA_X completely disables the ToolTips.
So when I enable VA_X, I get at least the "int a;" Info-Tooltips when sitting at a breakpoint and hovering the Cursor over a Variable. No Values of Variables, though...
When I disable VA_X, I don't get any ToolTips at all...
So I'm completely unsure...
a) if it's VA_X (Problem first occured (but vanished shortly afterwards) in Build 1232)
b) if it's Visual Studio .NET 2003 (as usual, "I didn't change anything!")
c) if it's me...
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Edited by - WannabeeDeveloper on May 03 2004 3:49:06 PM |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2004 : 4:45:21 PM
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Okay, I just de-installed VA_X, de-installed Visual Assist .NET 7.1, rebooted, installed VA_X, registered it with my key...
At first start of Visual Studio, the Menus, Toolbars etc. of VA_X did NOTHING (you should look into that).
After restarting VS .NET, everything worked, EXCEPT the "Values of Variables when hovering Mouse over Variable when Debugger sits at Breakpoint".
Still no ToolTips with Values while Debugging... 
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 5:04:46 PM
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It doesn't sound like VA since disabling VA should allow the debugger to work as normal. Does the problem still occur if you uninstall VA?
Since you reinstalled everything, it could be project related. Rebuild all? |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - May 03 2004 : 6:37:54 PM
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We can reproduce the smaller problem, ie build 1233 requires a restart of the IDE after uninstall and install. The problem does not happen if you reinstall over an existing build.
Problem applies to VS.NET and VC++ 6.0. The latter does not build a VA X toolbar until a restart.
ixBug=13 |
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Edited by - support on May 03 2004 6:44:49 PM |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - May 04 2004 : 02:12:57 AM
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Hmm... I am about to re-install Visual Studio completely (since I also have some problems with the local MSDN install as well). I am not sure if I can find the time today...
I will test if I have the ToolTips in Visual Studio without VA_X even installed. If so, I will install VA_X and test again. I'll let you know...
Strange that it occured the first time I installed Build 1232 of VA_X... It went away after 2-3 debugging-sessions. I really didn't change anything in the IDE...
But since 1233 the problem stayed...
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - May 04 2004 : 5:30:24 PM
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Okay, just completed installing Visual Studio .NET 2003
- Installed Visual Studio .NET 2003 (incl. MSDN and newest Platform SDK):
Shows Values of Variables in Tooltips while debugging!
Hooray!
- Installed VA_X 1233
NO Values (only definition/declaration) of Variables in ToolTips anymore!
I fear VA_X broke it... since without having installed VA_X, everything worked okay!
And, once again:
Disabling Visual Assist X completely shuts off ToolTips while debugging!
Looks like you change something during install of VA_X which doesn't get changed back when the User disables VA_X.
I mean, you're also disabling the Wizard-Bar in VS .NET which doesn't seem to come back up when I disable VA_X... something like that. I will de-install Visual Assist X 1233 this afternoon and check if I get back my beloved (and much needed) "show value of variable"-ToolTips. I'll let you know. But I think the problem really comes up after installing VA_X 1233...
Is there anything I can send to you (Logfiles of VA_X for example)?
Rebuilding the project doesn't help here, since the problem also shows on fresh and empty projects...
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Edited by - WannabeeDeveloper on May 05 2004 02:47:24 AM |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - May 05 2004 : 09:15:03 AM
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We believe we see the problem, are you using the German version of the IDE? Try enabling "Prefer default intellisense" on the c++ tab of the VA options dialog fix the problem?
If so, we will have a fix out shortly...
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 05 2004 : 09:21:45 AM
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Yep, german version of VS .NET 2003!
I'll try enabling "Prefer default intellisense", but I'm sure I disabled it because of other problems with it enabled, mostly member-listboxes, suggestion listboxes etc.
I'll keep you posted...
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
775 Posts |
Posted - May 05 2004 : 12:39:08 PM
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Enabling "Prefer default intellisense" does fix the problem!
But!
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"Visual Assist X Documentation" says:
To help determine origin of methods in member listboxes, you can elect to bold non-inherited members. The highlighting indicates an entry is local to a class. (This option currently effects only C/C++ when Use Default Intellisense is disabled.)
There we have another problem (which is by design this time):
Now I only get those Intellisense Member-Listboxes from MS. There's no way to find out what type of variable the member is. The hovering tooltip of those MS-Listboxes simply tell me the header-file they're coming from. But I'm relying on the type of variable very much while coding...
So if you have a fix for the german version of Visual Studio .NET, please release it asap, cause using VA_X 1233 isn't fun anymore right now.
"Prefer default Intellisense" ENABLED:
"Prefer default Intellisense" DISABLED:
See what I mean?
You only notice the value of something that is no longer there...
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Edited by - WannabeeDeveloper on May 05 2004 5:36:55 PM |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - May 08 2004 : 3:45:27 PM
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Tooltips during debug work for German IDEs in build 1235.
Workaround of enabling default Intellisense is not necessary. We recommend disabling the option. |
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