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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2004 :  11:48:51 AM  Show Profile
This is rather bad.

I type "if"

VAX shows its both Templates for if-statements.

I don't want this, so I type a space.

At that moment VAX shows a Listbox containing "If" with a two-squares icon and "f" with a book icon. This list box disappears after one second, so I didn't manage to create a screenshot.

But when I type "(" within this second, VAX deletes my typed space.

support
Whole Tomato Software

5566 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2004 :  1:59:28 PM  Show Profile
What build do you have?

What IDE?
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru

Germany
775 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2004 :  2:01:15 PM  Show Profile
Trying for at least half an hour to get VAX to show your behaviour...
I just cannot bring VAX to do it... works like a charm here...

(Build 1274, VS .NET 2003, WinXP SP2)

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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2004 :  6:29:35 PM  Show Profile
Sorry. Visual Studio .Net 2003; Language C# and Build 1274.
The bug has disappeared at the moment....
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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 09 2004 :  03:47:01 AM  Show Profile
It happened again!


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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru

Germany
775 Posts

Posted - Oct 09 2004 :  03:54:50 AM  Show Profile
Nice screenshot...

I tried it in C++, which didn't work...

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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 09 2004 :  08:21:03 AM  Show Profile
Did you notice the empty Tooltip? It stays on the screen a little longer than the rest...
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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 13 2004 :  07:25:43 AM  Show Profile
This thing is still annoying me heavily. I often end up with

if( If|) instead of
if ( | )

Are you going to open a case for this???
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
19014 Posts

Posted - Oct 13 2004 :  5:57:40 PM  Show Profile
personally i dislike opening a case for any problem i cannot reproduce. if you cannot reproduce something, it is hard to try and fix it, and even harder to tell if it has been fixed *sigh*

if you create a new C# console app, do you get this problem? i have just tried at least 30 times, and i am not getting anything like this in a C# console app, using .NET 2003 and VAX 1274

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 14 2004 :  06:45:41 AM  Show Profile
The problem is gone in V1275. Thank you.
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru

Germany
775 Posts

Posted - Oct 14 2004 :  5:24:34 PM  Show Profile
Nevertheless, we should still have an open eye at this problem on your system.

I was just about to suggest a "Clear cache of VAX" on the "performance" node of the options-dialog.
Something must have been broken on your system, which seems fixed by 1275. I believe the cache is cleared with updating VAX (Jeff, can you confirm this?)

I think I also saw this behaviour while coding C++, when I was using VAX and VS .NET 2003 for several hours (= more than 8 hours in a streak).
VAX just did some weird suggestions like

if (|)

PopUp: [i][MAX_PATH]

See, something really strange...
Sometimes, I don't even get Variables declared in the line above my current line within the suggestion...
I'm still trying to nail that one, but wasn't able to precisely reproduce it...
I think it has to do with either cache-corruption or long-time usage of VAX in a row.

Still seeking....

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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 14 2004 :  5:29:03 PM  Show Profile
Hi,

neither of the both can be the cause. I didn't use the IDE for a very long time without restarting and clearing the cache is always the first thing I do when I see strange behaviour.

The "if"-Problem was very sticky the last days while I was using 1274.
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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 15 2004 :  11:29:33 AM  Show Profile
It's back again ...
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
19014 Posts

Posted - Oct 17 2004 :  5:38:34 PM  Show Profile
if you can provide any clues, i will see if i can reproduce this. perhaps not what you wanted to hear, but it is all i can really offer for now.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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Rainer
Junior Member

Germany
22 Posts

Posted - Oct 22 2004 :  04:44:15 AM  Show Profile
Isn't there anybody who can reproduce this behaviour

At the moment (V1278) this weird Listbox opens *after* nearly every symbol (if, return, while etc) after I typed a space or Semicolon and shows two versions (return, Return) of this symbol and an empty Tooltip.

HELP PLEASE!
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
19014 Posts

Posted - Oct 22 2004 :  5:43:51 PM  Show Profile
i am not getting this, but i am a C++ programmer, so if it is somehow specific to C# that would explain why.

if you create a new C# console application, do you get this problem? if so, can you post the steps you take to reproduce this? if so, i will do the same here and see what happens for me.

do you have any other plugin's installed? any other software running that might be interacting somehow? do you have any other machine you can try, to see if it is machine specific?

i am trying to help, but no one else seems to have this problem. this suggests it is something about your machine, setup or project that is triggering this behaviour.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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Chris Nahr
Ketchup Master

92 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2004 :  12:22:13 PM  Show Profile
Now I can reproduce this bug! Typing "if" shows this weird completion box with two nonsense entries, just like in Rainer's screenshot.

I fear this is another bug related to project size, much like my "/// not inserted after Enter" bug that I could never reproduce in a simple test case.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
19014 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2004 :  4:19:49 PM  Show Profile
*doh*

let me guess, if you swap to a smaller project does the problem go away? is this is a C# project you are using? if so, how big is it?

it may be possible to find a C# project at codeproject.com that is big enough to show this problem, if the only trigger is having more than X source code files. admittedly a bit of a long shot, but it is worth a try, and it saves you having to share one of your projects.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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Chris Nahr
Ketchup Master

92 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2004 :  05:49:38 AM  Show Profile
No problem, I happen to have a fairly big open source project at hand that's available for download anyway.

I got both errors in this project, although not in the exact version that's currently up on my website.

Here's the link to the source package:
http://www.kynosarges.de/project/HexkitSource.zip

That's a 2.1 MB download. The Visual Studio solution contains a bunch of projects with >200K lines all told. (About half were auto-generated with CodeSmith, so it's not as bad as it looks...)

Unzip to an empty directory, then rebuild the whole thing twice to get all references right. Then just try editing around somewhere and see what happens.
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support
Whole Tomato Software

5566 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2004 :  12:48:20 PM  Show Profile
Taking a guess... do you have "Include bits of code" enabled on the Suggestions node of our options dialog? If so, does disabling help?
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support
Whole Tomato Software

5566 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2004 :  12:51:53 PM  Show Profile
We got it!!! Will be fixed in 1279.

case=403

Edited by - support on Oct 27 2004 12:58:58 PM
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