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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
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 Posted - Dec 14 2004 : 04:33:37 AM
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when VC is inactive, but the bottom hotizontal scroll is visible and you click in page down region of the horiz scroll bar, the scrol bar moves while the text - does not.
i know this is not a major issue, but i reported it a couple of yrs ago and received an e-mail with "thank you for excellent description etc..." but this wasn't fixed still:(
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19020 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2004 : 3:53:10 PM
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i am unable to reproduce this with either VC6 or .NET 2003
which IDE and version of VAX are you using? |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - Dec 15 2004 : 4:06:13 PM
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This is the Visual Assist .NET 7.1 and Visual Assist 6.0 Forum!
I bet you're using Visual Assist X...
Moving this Thread to the proper Forum... |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
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Posted - Dec 21 2004 : 09:51:06 AM
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| feline, how about this bug? ;) |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19020 Posts |
Posted - Dec 22 2004 : 06:16:17 AM
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as i said, i tried this and was unable to reproduce it. i can have another look, but unless you can provide me with some more hints / ideas of what to try then i am going to get the same result again.
are you running other plugin's? is there some other program on your computer that may be getting in the way? |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
28 Posts |
Posted - Dec 22 2004 : 06:26:25 AM
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i reread the first paragraph of my first posting and found it quite easy to follow.
please tell me what you did that failed to reproduce it as it's always happening. this is vc6 and with all versions of VA.
p.s. I hope you know what is page down region of scroll bar |
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jpizzi
Tomato Guru
USA
642 Posts |
Posted - Dec 22 2004 : 11:06:49 AM
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Maybe it is easy for you to follow. However, for me, there is no "page down" region of the horizontal scroll bar. There is a page down region of the vertical scroll bar.
I would be surprised to find that this is related to VA at all, but it could be.
You still haven't given us the specifics on version of VS and VA you are using.
My guess is that it is a video driver problem. I have tried both the page right and the page down sections of the appropriate scroll bars with IE at the application with focus. Does the application with focus affect the behavior of the bug? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19020 Posts |
Posted - Dec 23 2004 : 3:51:57 PM
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i will type this post as i do the actions, so you will know exactly what i have done.
load virtual machine, running win2k and VC6
load VC6 and open a workspace with some long C++ source files
VAX 1287 is active, and the source code has both horizontal and vertical scroll bars.
run notepad which is now in front of VC
the file is at the top, so the scroll bar is at the top.
single left click at the bottom of the vertical scroll bar, just above the down arrow, which makes VC the current window
VC comes to the front, the scroll bar moves, and the code redraws with the screen one page further down.
so the bug did not show up on this system.
now close notepad
resize VC so it fills half the screen
the caret is in the editor window
single left click on the desktop to take focus away from VC
now once more single left click on the vertical scroll bar to both move the code down one page and to make VC the current window
as before, everything works as expected.
as jpizzi says, you still have not posted the details of your system. i have seen redraw problems in other text editors before (textpad for example) which have been caused by the video drivers, so unless you can add something i am inclined to agree with jpizzi.
do you have access to another computer to try this experiment on? does the problem go away if you disable VAX? as jpizzi asks, is the reference to the horizontal scroll bar just a typo, or are you doing something different to me? |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
28 Posts |
Posted - Dec 24 2004 : 01:36:47 AM
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Originally posted by feline
i will type this post as i do the actions, so you will know exactly what i have done.
load virtual machine, running win2k and VC6
load VC6 and open a workspace with some long C++ source files
VAX 1287 is active, and the source code has both horizontal and vertical scroll bars.
run notepad which is now in front of VC
the file is at the top, so the scroll bar is at the top.
single left click at the bottom of the vertical scroll bar, just above the down arrow, which makes VC the current window
VC comes to the front, the scroll bar moves, and the code redraws with the screen one page further down.
so the bug did not show up on this system.
now close notepad
resize VC so it fills half the screen
the caret is in the editor window
single left click on the desktop to take focus away from VC
now once more single left click on the vertical scroll bar to both move the code down one page and to make VC the current window
as before, everything works as expected.
as jpizzi says, you still have not posted the details of your system. i have seen redraw problems in other text editors before (textpad for example) which have been caused by the video drivers, so unless you can add something i am inclined to agree with jpizzi.
do you have access to another computer to try this experiment on? does the problem go away if you disable VAX? as jpizzi asks, is the reference to the horizontal scroll bar just a typo, or are you doing something different to me?
arghhhhh, feline, you did everything perfectly well, except one thing, you needed to left click on horizontal scroll bar instead of the vertical one
:) nothing special with my system |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19020 Posts |
Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 1:57:39 PM
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hence the confusion. the horizontal scroll bar does not scroll down a page.
regardless of this, i still cannot reproduce this on my machine, even using the horizontal scroll bar.
are there newer video drivers available for your video card? do you have access to a second machine with VC6 installed where you could try this?
based on my past experience video drivers still sound like the most likely cause of this effect. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
28 Posts |
Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 3:16:43 PM
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sorry, but video drivers have nothing to do with these kind of things that i am talking about.
and this is a very old bug which I reported to your support team (posted many big screeshots, may be you can find it in WT's archive) and got a reply where they accepted it is a bug. if you do the things right i described, it's happening every time. |
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jpizzi
Tomato Guru
USA
642 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 1:22:48 PM
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Well, now both feline and I have tried your procedure, without experiencing what you are describing.
If you follow feline's procedure to the letter (substituting page right on the horizontal scroll bar for page down on the vertical scroll bar), does it happen on your machine? It does not on mine, and it does not on feline's (as he stated in his post).
The fact that you have seen this for a long time only helps to support the claim that there is something specific on your machine. I have only been following the forums for about a year and a half, but I have not seen any previous mention of the behavior you describe. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19020 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 4:28:02 PM
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Originally posted by araav
sorry, but video drivers have nothing to do with these kind of things that i am talking about.
the best answer i can give to this is that when i evaluated textpad on my work machine the text refused to scroll vertically when it word wrapped onto a new line when i was typing at the bottom of the screen.
for all the world it looked like a bug in the program. this was fixed by upgrading to the latest video card drivers.
here you are reporting a problem with scrolling, yet no one else is able to reproduce this. how can you be so sure that the video drivers are not a factor? can you reproduce this on a different machine? is there some step that we are missing when we try to reproduce this?
i am sure this is very frustrating for you, but unless we are able to reproduce this, there is not a lot more we can do. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
28 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 5:15:00 PM
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umm, ok, let's see, since the bug was discovered I've changed more than 10 machines and worked on more than 30 machines (i'm a god damn programmer ).
ok, I tried the sequence of what feline said and it happened again: when you click on page right section of the horizontal scroll bar, while VC window is inactive (regardless the current position of the horizontal scroll bar) the scroll bar moves one page right then immediately jumps back to position 0 and main editor window shows the text starting from the second character.
ok, as i said before, this is not a major issue, just a bug that needs fixing, nothing else, if you want I can do some printscreens and post here.
thanks and happy new year,
VA is my favorite addon,
Ara
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Old as dirt
Tomato Guru
USA
246 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 11:12:04 AM
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I just tried it and it happend to me. I'm using VS6 VC++ VA1287
I have the IDE taking up only part of the screen and bring up notepad. It happens if notepad has the focus and I click on the page right part of the horizontal scroll bar. The text scrolls and then immediately jumps back. (My text shows with the first character and the scroll bar stays off of the left hand edge)
Now, if I grab the notepad and drag it over the left hand end of the IDE scroll bar and then back off in one motion, then the scroll bar is back on the left hand end.
This hasn't bothered me because I never have the IDE at anything but maximized or minimized. I also only have one instance of the IDE running.
Ken
As a follow up here. It doesn't have to be restored, it happens even when the IDE is maximized and notepad is on top and has the focus. Also, even if you have scrolled the IDE over some before you do this, it jumps back all the way to the left.
I just tried it with VA disabled and it works correctly.
I had the text scrolled over and when I enabled VA it jumped back to the first position and left the scroll bar where it was.  |
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Edited by - Old as dirt on Dec 31 2004 11:40:20 AM |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
28 Posts |
Posted - Jan 02 2005 : 4:03:27 PM
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Ken, 10x for reproducing
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19020 Posts |
Posted - Jan 04 2005 : 5:15:56 PM
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finally i have managed to reproduce this! it only seems to happen when VC6 is restored, so that it only takes up part of the screen. since i don't run at a very high resolution i always keep the IDE maximised, which seems to have been the problem
i am glad we finally got to the bottom of this one
for me this only happens around 60% of the time, the rest of the time the text scrolls sideways correctly. the work around is to click on the scroll bar a second time
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zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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araav
Senior Member
Armenia
28 Posts |
Posted - Jan 04 2005 : 6:09:39 PM
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good work, feline, but...
it happens 100% all the time and VC++ maximized. vc++ is always maximized for mee too.
o activate vc++
o opens some file
o just single left click on some free place (you know, a place where right clicking opens taskbar menu) on the taskbar. vc window is now inactive
o single left click on vc++'s horizontal scroll bar's page right region.
cheers |
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