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FlawedLogic
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - Jun 16 2005 : 03:54:20 AM
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At work I have my laptop which has VAX installed but I also have to use other networked desktops which don't.
My problem is that when I start VC++ (6.0 in my case) on one of the company desktops it says that because it can't find VAX it will not attempt to load it in future. Then when I go back to my laptop it doesn't load anymore and I have to reinstall it from scratch to get it working again.
Can anything be done about this please? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Jun 16 2005 : 3:36:55 PM
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*puzzled* i am trying to follow exactly what is going on here.
is VA only installed on the laptop? if the machines are actually separate then this does not make any sense. are you using some form of remote desktop program to access one copy of the IDE from more than one machine? |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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FlawedLogic
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 17 2005 : 04:16:18 AM
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On the company network our Visual C++ profiles are stored on a server so that wherever you use Visual C++ it will restore your preferred button bars, fonts, colours etc.
This means that when I use a company desktop, which does not have VAX installed (we haven't got a site license yet, but I'm working on it) and it says it will not attempt to load it in future, it saves that setting to the company server. Then when I load Visual C++ on my laptop (also attached to the network), it goes to the server to retrieve my settings finds this flag and consequently doesn't load it on my laptop either even though it could.
I hope this make sense? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Jun 17 2005 : 2:58:53 PM
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*ah* yes, that does make sense. if you are only using one machine at a time then you should be OK to use a single VA license, and install it on both machines. based on my reading of the licence agreement:
http://www.wholetomato.com/support/agreement.html
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By saying "just like a book," Whole Tomato means, for example, that this software may be used by a number of people and may be freely moved from one computer location to another, so long as there is no possibility of it being used at one location while it is being used at another. Just like a book cannot be read by two different people in two different places at the same time, neither can the software be used by two different people in two different places at the same time.
this is acceptable usage. your description sounds like this is the case, but only you will know for sure. |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 01:47:12 AM
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| Did you try to run VA X with the same license on two PCs and get a complaint? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Jun 19 2005 : 1:47:19 PM
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| if i understand correctly VA is only installed on one machine, but two machines are using the same VC6 profile. when you run VC6 on a machine without VA installed it decides not to try and load VA next time. |
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FlawedLogic
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 20 2005 : 07:27:31 AM
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| Feline is correct. One licence, one installed copy of VAX but shared profile with non-licensed machines via the company server. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Jun 20 2005 : 2:07:50 PM
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does your usage fit with my reading of the licence agreement? VA should detect any accidental duplicate use of the same licence key on the same network and warn you.
if you are still talking to management about getting a site licence you may want to show them this page:
http://www.wholetomato.com/purchase/roi.html
hopefully it will help  |
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FlawedLogic
Senior Member
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - Jun 21 2005 : 03:52:13 AM
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I currently only ever use VAX on one machine (my laptop) so there are no licensing issues, no duplicates. I couldn't install it anyway on company machines without formal approval. It is the shared profile that is causing problems.
My company is quite large (100 developers on my site and more elsewhere) and slow when it comes to these things, my say so is normally enough, along with a formal evaluation, to have it recommended as a company tool but the administrators like to justify their existence by taking months over everything. We'll get there eventually. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Jun 21 2005 : 2:54:40 PM
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| can you turn off shared profiles for now? this seems like the simplest and fastest solution, but i suspect there is some reason why you have not done this. |
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FlawedLogic
Senior Member
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - Jun 23 2005 : 04:29:12 AM
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| It's not the end of the world. All I really want is a simple method to re-enable VAX after it has stopped loading itself, simpler at least than re-installing. I mentioned it here so these circumstances can be considered for the next release. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Jun 23 2005 : 5:12:50 PM
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under VC6's tool menu there is "customize..."
the last tab in this dialog is the "add-ins and macro files" tab, which seems to be the equivalent of the which plugins to load screen in vs2003.
is VAX listed in this dialog for you? if so does selecting it and then restarting the IDE re-enable VAX? |
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FlawedLogic
Senior Member
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - Aug 03 2005 : 03:45:33 AM
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I hadn't noticed that thanks.
Our formal appraisal of VAX has come in very positive, expect a site order from us soon with a bit of luck, then my problem is fixed anyway since all our machines will have it. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Aug 04 2005 : 12:26:17 PM
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this is good news
hopefully the "add-ins and macro files" option will help to tide you over until this kicks in. |
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 01:13:47 AM
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Jup, seems like that.
box29, bag60, leaf57, bottle58... all the same if you ask me.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19014 Posts |
Posted - Aug 18 2005 : 3:16:52 PM
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| agreed, i am going to just delete others of these as i find them. |
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