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gunvulture
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 Posted - Jul 26 2005 : 10:23:17 PM
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You guys have an awesome intellisense implementation. I just have one suggestion.
In the options, you allow for any non symbol key to complete. This is great... /except/ for space. A checkbox to disable space in that case would be completely awesome.
Its really frustrating typing something completely out that is right, hitting space to move on, and have it complete to whatever was in the list. This can be worked around by hitting esc, but hey, VA is all about not having to work around things. |
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SvenC
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 01:58:08 AM
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Totally agree - that would make me turn on that feature again  |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 6:00:41 PM
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in the interests of understanding why, what sort of things are you typing? i can see how this will help when inserting a type (class name, etc), but it will not help on function calls, etc.
i just have a slight reluctance to suggest adding an option :) |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
Edited by - feline on Jul 28 2005 6:01:11 PM |
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SvenC
Tomato Guru
Germany
339 Posts |
Posted - Jul 29 2005 : 02:35:14 AM
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Well, if I start adding some code in function foo like so:
void foo()
{
int t;
t// now I get a suggestion for true, so when I press <space> because
// I want to type " = 42;" I get a completion of true unless I use
// <esc> to close the suggestion box. Having <space> *not* do the
// completion would save me one <esc>
}
In a world of perfect suggestion list boxes there might be no need for this option but like in the sample above, where "t" might have been in the suggestion list to choose between "t" and "true" but is not, I guess there will always be suggestion boxes where the users intended word is not in the list so that not looking at suggestion boxes and pressing <space> causes a wrong completion.
Bye,
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2005 : 11:10:09 AM
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*experiments* in both C# and VB with VAX disabled space accepts the current suggestion. however you do make a valid case for an option given how keen to make suggestions VAX can be 
i will put in a request and see what people make of it.
case=707 |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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ted4412wilt
Junior Member
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Posted - Jul 31 2005 : 11:58:38 PM
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I use Tab to accept the current suggestion to avoid problems with space in C++.
There is a design flaw in Visual Assist that accepts a suggestion and then puts it in front of the existing name instead of replacing that name.
Example. I have PostMessage and I want to change it to SendMessage. I type sen and VA suggests SendMessage I press Tab and I get SendMessagePostMessage
Should be easy fix to delete all contiguous alpha-numeric_ char following the new name. Good idea to limit the number of char deleted to some sane amount in case the user has a really long string for some reason.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Aug 01 2005 : 3:15:04 PM
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this has been debated before, and there is a conflict between inserting new code in front of existing code, and replacing existing code.
in your example how is VAX to know that you are not trying to write:
SendMessage() = PostMessage()
VAX tries to make the correct decision based on guessing what is going on. |
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ted4412wilt
Junior Member
22 Posts |
Posted - Aug 01 2005 : 4:39:10 PM
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In the rare instance where that is the desired result, press = and Home before typing sen.
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WannabeeDeveloper
Tomato Guru
Germany
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Posted - Aug 02 2005 : 03:49:27 AM
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We had several discussion over this already.
However, if you want to replace "Post" by "Send", select "Post" and start typing "Send".
You should get a suggestion for "SendMessage" and hopefully you won't end up having "SendMessageMessage"   (which is the point where we had those discussions about).
We could convince WT to let VAX "look" at the end of the current word/symbol/name and if the rest of the already existent name is the same as the newly added (like "Message" in both Send- and Postmessage), VAX should replace the whole word.
If you want to have a look at those discussion, do a forum search for "TeddyBear" where you'll find a thread lasting over a few pages. |
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gunvulture
Junior Member
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Posted - Aug 02 2005 : 2:48:06 PM
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Just to make the aforementioned example more poignant, take the case that caused me to post
for (int i = 0; i < ...
The second i was getting autocompleted to "int". This /extremely/ common usage pattern drove me so batty I turned off the "other symbol" auotcomplete.
However SvenC makes a good point -- in the idea world i would already be in the complete list. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Aug 03 2005 : 2:33:07 PM
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i can see how this would be a problem. it is recommended that you have accept on any symbol not valid in a symbol turned off, and personally i could not work with it turned on. VAX's suggestions are often very good, but there are always times when it does not know what i am up to.
taking a different approach to this, you could always create an autotext rule, something like:
for:
for(int i = 0; i < -?; i++) {
}
the strange characters may or may not post correctly, but this is a straight copy and paste from my cpp.tpl file. |
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jpizzi
Tomato Guru
USA
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Posted - Aug 03 2005 : 8:37:01 PM
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quote:
...but there are always times when it does not know what i am up to.
Heck, there are times when I don't know what I'm up to!!  |
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SvenC
Tomato Guru
Germany
339 Posts |
Posted - Aug 04 2005 : 05:52:17 AM
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| We definitely need intellisense based on electromagnetic wave patterns sent out from some dark region of our brain during this phase of "hmm, I am going to build this crazy cool piece of software but I've no idea what, why and for whom it is going to be". Should not be too difficult for VAX 13, should it? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Aug 04 2005 : 12:36:27 PM
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personally i have been trying to resist the urge to put in a case called "make VAX read my mind" for several months now
i mean, i know what i am doing (well, for the most part), and just because the new code does not look anything like the existing code is no reason why VAX should not correctly guess the new variable names i am about to use. it actually gets quite close some of the time, we just need to close the gap |
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