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KRG
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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 Posted - Sep 22 2025 : 08:47:43 AM
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Reading that... seriously, what is someone thinking?! That is a mess.
This is the first report of this, but yes, we are clearly going to get more reports of this.
So far though I am not seeing the problem here. Are you running one of these new CoPilot enabled computers with local AI? I am not, so I am wondering if that is part of the trigger condition for this to take effect. A complete guess on my part though. |
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KRG
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 22 2025 : 1:33:24 PM
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| I'm on the latest Win11 and Edge. This was working fine until a few days ago and I've lost the shortcut at home but not at the office. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 23 2025 : 08:03:14 AM
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Testing a different Windows 11 machine. Windows Update is reporting that everything is installed and up to date. With Edge open and having focus, Alt-Shift-S is being grabbed. But change to another program, and Alt-Shift-S is being ignored. Perhaps this is only being rolled out to some people? But until I can reproduce it, I cannot test which options stop this happening. Not helpful.
Looks like I need to try all of my Windows 11 machines in turn. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 23 2025 : 12:30:07 PM
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Well, that didn't get me very far. 6 machines checked now, 2 of them will do something on Alt-Shift-S if Edge is open and has focus, but neither of them do anything when Edge does not have focus.
The other machines don't do anything with this shortcut, despite all of the machines reporting that they are fully updated, and all are running Windows 11. This suggests there is another factor at work with the shortcut key being global, but I have no idea what it might be. Does closing Edge fix the problem for you? |
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KRG
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 24 2025 : 7:23:00 PM
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So I have the issue on my home machine but not my work machine:
OS version at home: 26100.6584 with Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.234.0
My edge version is: Version 140.0.3485.81 (Official build) (64-bit) |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19227 Posts |
Posted - Sep 25 2025 : 09:17:58 AM
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Identical Windows 11 version numbers, and after prodding Edge, an identical version number there as well. Rebooting makes no difference. I am not seeing anything obvious in the Edge or Visual Search settings either to explain this difference.
Alt-Shift-S is only being grabbed when Edge has focus.
Just to make sure we are doing a similar test, can you try testing with "notepad" running, and Visual Studio closed. I am wondering if the solution or files you are working with in Visual Studio might be calling on Edge, and thus somehow activating this keyboard shortcut in a different program.
There are obviously other people running into this, but so far, I cannot trigger / reproduce it here. |
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LukasT.dev
New Member
Slovakia
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Posted - Sep 25 2025 : 2:57:40 PM
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I also reproduced this problem: I have to kill all the instances of msedge.exe so that Alt+Shift+S works in Visual Studio.
If edge is running (no focus needed), the keyboard shortcut does not work.
Windows 11: Version 10.0.26100 Build 26100
Edge: Version 140.0.3485.81 (Official build) (64-bit)
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 26 2025 : 07:52:59 AM
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Obviously not something we have any control over. If I could reproduce this here, I would try and capture the Alt-Shift-S keyboard shortcut with Auto Hotkey, which is a program I already use for global keyboard shortcuts:
https://www.autohotkey.com
but then you start running into problems with which program loads first, and has priority. Plus, you then need to pass the keyboard shortcut on, but that should be "easy" by just passing the keyboard shortcut on to the currently active window.
But so far, no signs of this problem at all on any of my machines.
Is Edge being run as administrator? Set to run on start up? Version numbers don't offer any clues, so I am not sure where to look for differences between machines. I am not seeing anything in my Edge settings that offer any clues, so is this some odd registry setting? A Windows setting? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19227 Posts |
Posted - Sep 26 2025 : 1:02:41 PM
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A couple of thoughts on this. Firstly, does turning Off the Edge settings:
Settings -> Appearance -> Browser behaviour and features -> Visual Search -> Enable Visual Search
Settings -> Appearance -> Browser behaviour and features -> Visual Search -> Use keyboard shortcut to trigger Visual Search
have any effect on all of this?
Also, on the Edge settings page, if you go to Extensions, there is a Keyboard shortcuts section. Does this have anything to do with the problem?
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KRG
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - Sep 27 2025 : 3:22:06 PM
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| The only thing that fixes it for me is to manually close all edge processes. Which is a non-starter as I use edge as my browser. I've email a contact at MS but I havent heard back. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19227 Posts |
Posted - Sep 29 2025 : 10:33:45 AM
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This only seems to be effecting a smaller number of people. Do you know if your Microsoft account is signed up for some form of Insider access to preview updates, or something like that? Nothing I have tried here is letting me reproduce the problem, so its hard to study myself.
I suspect AutoHotkey, a keyboard shortcut manager, could be used, and if it was able to grab the keyboard shortcut first, it could re-send it to the current window. But obviously this shouldn't need to be done.
Another option would be to go into:
IDE tools menu -> Options -> Environment -> Keyboard
and add a different keyboard shortcut to the command "VAssistX.FindSymbolDialog", but then you have to train your fingers to use a different shortcut to access a familiar dialog, which is a pain. |
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msew
Ketchup Master
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Posted - Sep 30 2025 : 6:52:15 PM
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>and add a different keyboard shortcut to the command "VAssistX.FindSymbolDialog", but then you have to train your fingers to use a different shortcut to access a familiar dialog, which is a pain.
Never! |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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Posted - Oct 01 2025 : 06:52:50 AM
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Not something I liked suggesting, but I feel I have to suggest anything that might help. Obviously you can also use the menu and toolbar, but I only really open the dialog with the keyboard myself.
If anyone has any good suggestions on how I can trigger this here, I can try them. I don't expect to find any way to stop Edge, but it would let me experiment with possible work arounds. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19227 Posts |
Posted - Oct 03 2025 : 09:29:20 AM
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Based on a couple of updates to the Reddit thread, I have a possible work around. Since I cannot reproduce / trigger the problem here, all I can do is test that this work around works correctly here for me.
Install AutoHotkey from:
https://www.autohotkey.com
assuming you are installing version 2, not version 1, since there are some changes to the syntax of the files it runs between versions 1 and 2.
Once installed, create a file called "AutoHotkey.ahk", I placed it at:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\AutoHotkey.ahk
Edit the file to give it the following content:
SendMode "Input" ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir A_InitialWorkingDir ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.
<!+s::
{
if WinActive("ahk_exe devenv.exe")
{
KeyWait "Alt"
KeyWait "Control"
Send("!+s")
return
}
; Fallback for other apps
Send("!+s")
}
To make sure this takes effect on reboot / startup, place a SHORTCUT to this "ahk" file in the directory:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
To activate the shortcut without rebooting, simply run (double click) the "ahk" file. |
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