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makeshiftwings
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Posted - Mar 17 2004 :  11:03:50 PM  Show Profile
This is a very minor bug, but in earlier versions of Visual Assist, you could include extended ASCII characters in code templates, such as -? . But in Visual Assist X, any extended characters in a code template disappear when it's inserted into a file.

makeshiftwings
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Posted - Mar 17 2004 :  11:05:43 PM  Show Profile
Also, I should add I'm using the 10.0.1221.0 in Visual Studio .NET 2003, in C++ files.
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jpizzi
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Posted - Mar 17 2004 :  11:16:16 PM  Show Profile
But, those extended characters are illegal in C or C++ source code.

I realize that some compilers allow it, but...

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makeshiftwings
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Posted - Mar 17 2004 :  11:35:36 PM  Show Profile
Well, I only use them in comments... actually, the only one i use is the -? for a copyright which goes in a template header at the top of all our files. I *think* it's legal in all compilers to put them in comments, as comments aren't parsed so anything legal for a standard ASCII text file can go in there.
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WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  02:31:44 AM  Show Profile
...while we're already at it:
Auto-Code Template-Suggestion Popup ALWAYS offers two identical entries...
For Example:
When I type "if", the popup shows two identical "if(-?) { }" entries to chosse from.
I think it should just offer one (since both entries are exact the same, couldn't find any differences between them).

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Stephen
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  05:17:00 AM  Show Profile
jpizzi: Why do you think those characters are not allowed? I've got the 1990 C spec in front of me. It says:
quote:
Section 5.2.1. If any other characters [*] are encountered in a source file (except in a character constant, a string literal, a header name, a comment, or a preprocessing token that is never converted to a token), the behavior is undefined.

[*] Other than the 92(?) characters required in the source character set, that is.
(Emphasis mine). It also says
quote:
Section 5.2.1.2: The source character set may contain multibyte characters, used to represent members of the extended character set.
Or am I missing something?

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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  08:58:46 AM  Show Profile
Wannabee: Can you look for differences in your Autotext file?

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WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  09:11:40 AM  Show Profile
I will when I'm back home...

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WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  12:13:54 PM  Show Profile
Here you are, found the "bug"

First, this is the suggestion from VA_X:


Now, here you have an excerpt from my Cpp.tpl:

if:
if (-?) {
}
if:
if (-?)
{
}

while:
while (-?) {
}
while:
while (-?)
{
}

for:
for (-?) {
}
for:
for (-?)
{
}


I must confess, I did edit the Cpp.tpl a loooong time ago (in Build 1216 or somewhere around there).
I thought VA-X Setup would "detect" my changes and not add those Entries I edited (since it is just one of your "standard" entries slightly edited to my coding-style) again...

But, somehow, it must have entered them, which is not good and results in the shown behaviour...

Any chance for a fix? Or is this just the effect of an outdated Build (with which I edited the TPL) not noticed or found mention-worthy before?

What shall I do to test if this behaviour (adding templates although they are already present in TPL-File but slightly different from "standard" entries) is still there in the newer Setups?


Edited by - WannabeeDeveloper on Mar 18 2004 12:35:41 PM
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feline
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  12:20:18 PM  Show Profile
personally i have started deleting "standard" entries from my current Cpp.tpl file that i dont use. since VAX keeps its list in the latest subdirectory i can always diff the two files and retrieve any i want back at a later date :)

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makeshiftwings
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  5:04:23 PM  Show Profile
quote:

Section 5.2.1. If any other characters [*] are encountered in a source file (except in a character constant, a string literal, a header name, a comment, or a preprocessing token that is never converted to a token), the behavior is undefined.

[*] Other than the 92(?) characters required in the source character set, that is.


That's true, I forgot you can use them in strings too. As of yet, I haven't had to write a VAX code template that has extended ASCII in a string, but it's not inconceivable, so it would be a good bug to look at.
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jpizzi
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Posted - Mar 18 2004 :  11:39:48 PM  Show Profile
OK. I looked in the C++ standard (14882:1998). It is not nearly as explicit as the C standard (which you quote from), but does contain provision for "universal characters."

In fact, C++ even allows what I refer to as "accented characters" in identifiers.

Learn something new every day...

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WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - Mar 19 2004 :  1:13:33 PM  Show Profile
Funny thing:
I just took a look at the "CS.TPL" (that's the one for C#, right?)

I never edited that one, cause I don't code in C#, but also there are duplicate entries!
In my "CPP.TPL", I thought it was my fault (cause I edited it manually), but I really never ever edited the C#-Templatefile!


if:
if (-?) {
}
if:
if (-?)
{
}
while:
while (-?) {
}
while:
while (-?)
{
}
for:
for (-?) {
}
for:
for (-?)
{
}

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Stephen
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Posted - Mar 19 2004 :  1:21:43 PM  Show Profile
They're not duplicates, they have the opening brace in different places, so that you can choose between two common coding styles.

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Posted - Mar 19 2004 :  3:21:07 PM  Show Profile
Stephen is correct. Templates are different.

Line breaks in templates should appear as funny boxes in suggestion listboxes. Obviously, they do not for Wannabee. Listboxes for us look like this:


We are trying to track down the font used in our suggestion listboxes for Autotext. We get it from the IDE but we cannot yet determine from where the IDE gets it. We are still working on this and plan to have it resolved in build 1222. When done, either we or Wannabee changes the default font.

We tried using \\n for line breaks in listboxes. Ugly. We tried | but no go -- made one think of a caret position.

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