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swinefeaster
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Posted - May 03 2006 :  5:02:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where did these go? I hover over a function in the code and I see no tip showing its declaration comments. This used to work. VAX does know about this symbol, and can jump to its declaration.

I am sending you an avi, Feline...

swine

rhummer
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USA
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Posted - May 03 2006 :  5:21:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what IDE/Language? I see them just fine in VS .NET 2003 in C++

Tools Engineer - Raven Software
VS2005 SP2/VS2008 SP1 - VAX <LATEST> - Win 7 x64


Edited by - rhummer on May 03 2006 5:22:19 PM
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swinefeaster
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310 Posts

Posted - May 04 2006 :  1:18:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
VS2005 C++... nope still aint there :(
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swinefeaster
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Posted - May 04 2006 :  1:19:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
(i can send you the avi that demonstrates this, if feline is
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rhummer
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USA
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Posted - May 04 2006 :  1:57:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hm, I can't test with 2005, don't have it here with me. Feel free to send a AVI to support/feline.

Tools Engineer - Raven Software
VS2005 SP2/VS2008 SP1 - VAX <LATEST> - Win 7 x64

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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
18939 Posts

Posted - May 04 2006 :  4:30:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have the movie. testing the same code on VS2003 and VS2005 produces the following:

VS2003 shows me:



notice the single pixel space all around the edge of this tooltip. this means that the tooltip is coming from VA.

VS2005 shows me:



here there is no such space. this tooltip is from the IDE.

so the actual problem is that VS2005 is more prone to showing tooltips than VS2003 was. unfortunately we have not been able to stop the IDE showing tooltips in more recent IDE's, so VA only shows its tooltips after it has decided that the IDE is not going to show one of its own.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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kevinsikes
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USA
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Posted - May 05 2006 :  9:49:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen this happen when the debugger is active -- are you seeing this while stepping through code or at other times?

Kevin Sikes
Infotainment Platform Design Engineer
Ford Motor Company
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
18939 Posts

Posted - May 06 2006 :  4:56:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my screen shots came from just editing, nothing was running or being debugged. however entering debug mode does seem to have an effect on tooltips in VS2005.

as always, any facts that will help to clarify the situation will be gratefully received.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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swinefeaster
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310 Posts

Posted - May 10 2006 :  2:14:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all i have to say is that this makes me very sad
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
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Posted - May 10 2006 :  3:13:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if some method could be found to block all IDE tooltips while still letting VA tooltips through this would help. i have some hope this will be possible with VS2005, but at the moment this is private speculation based on a problem with tooltips i myself am having in VS2005.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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swinefeaster
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310 Posts

Posted - Sep 08 2006 :  6:48:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
any good news on this? i really miss the VAX tooltips --- they were very useful in vc6.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 09 2006 :  3:34:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no news on this unfortunately. VA does a lot of work behind the IDE's back, but is not free to just override the IDE.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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sean
Whole Tomato Software

USA
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Posted - Sep 09 2006 :  11:40:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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