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eco
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Posted - Oct 09 2006 :  05:07:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since 1538, I got frequent visual freeze (1 minute) when saving files.

feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
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Posted - Oct 09 2006 :  07:09:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not seeing that here, for what its worth.

which IDE and programming language are you using?
which version of VA were you using before? I am assuming this is new, and you have never seen this before.
how are you saving the files? does it make any difference if you save them using a different method?
do you have any other plugin's installed?
are you using integrated source control? there are some options for talking to source control on saving.
are the files being saved to a local or network drive?

how large are the files? does the file size make any difference? what about using a different project?

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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sean
Whole Tomato Software

USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Oct 09 2006 :  1:42:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not clear what you mean by "visual freeze."
Is the IDE responsive during that time or is it totally locked up?
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eco
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102 Posts

Posted - Oct 11 2006 :  02:38:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
-- totally locked up

I saw that before but it was about 10s to 20s, I can easily wait, but 1m30s i too long in my mind.
Just for information, in version 1535, VA sometimes took up to 1.5Gb of memory; now it's ok, but the changes you made cannot slow down ?

VA_X.dll file version 10.3.1538.0 built 2006.10.06
Licensed to:
VA X: xxxxx (12-user license) Support ends 2007.09.14
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.3.6
VATE.dll version 1.0.5.8
DevEnv.exe version 8.0.50727.42
msenv.dll version 8.0.50727.42
Font: Courier New 13(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 6.0.2900.2180
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
2 processors

Platform: Custom
Stable Includes:
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio 8\\vc\\platformsdk\\include;

Library Includes:
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\sdk\\v1.1\\include;

Other Includes:

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sean
Whole Tomato Software

USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Oct 11 2006 :  03:20:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
VA doesn't deliberately do anything to tie up the UI thread. A 10 second hang should not be common.

Do you have any other plugin's installed?
Are the files being saved to a local or network drive?
Does this happen across all files and projects or just particular ones?
Does file size make any difference?

You might try deleting the solution .ncb file to see if that makes a difference.
If that doesn't make a difference, then a log would be helpful:
http://www.wholetomato.com/support/faq.asp#log

Edited by - sean on Oct 11 2006 03:44:03 AM
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eco
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102 Posts

Posted - Oct 11 2006 :  10:00:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm using .net 2005
I Do not have any other plugin's installed.
The files being saved are local.
This happen across all files and projects.
The file size do not make any difference.
I Use a source control that do nothing when saving files.
I saw that frequently on large projects (1,000,000 lines)
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
18939 Posts

Posted - Oct 11 2006 :  1:15:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you could try a pair of zero length read only NCB files. I have seen VS2005 grind to a halt on large (smaller than 1,000,000 lines) C++ projects, due to its intellisense parser.

with the IDE closed delete the NCB file in the solution base directory and replace it with a zero length file, and make this read only.
then copy this file to the %temp% directory.

the IDE will complain about this when you open the solution, but tell it to leave the files alone. as long as you have:

VA Options -> Text Editor -> listboxes -> get content from default intellisense

turned off you should be OK. some things in the IDE will stop working, but VA will be OK. if this fixes the problem it suggests it is the IDE, not VA, causing the problems.

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eco
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102 Posts

Posted - Oct 12 2006 :  03:06:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
arf arf arf
this is funny, i'll try that just for fun.
a friend of mine tell me not to start the ide to gain time ;)
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
18939 Posts

Posted - Oct 12 2006 :  08:19:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if you are using C++ then you should find the IDE is a lot faster with the read only NCB files. however if you are using C# then this will probably upset intellisense rather badly.

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