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mtwombley
Senior Member
Canada
29 Posts |
 Posted - May 03 2007 : 3:34:17 PM
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VA_X.dll file version 10.3.1555.0 built 2007.04.26
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.2.0
VATE.dll version 1.0.5.4
DevEnv.exe version 7.10.6030.0
msenv.dll version 7.10.6030.0
Comctl32.dll version 5.82.2900.2982
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
I've notices under this version now that when the Suggestion list appears it will just disappear even before I can make my selection. I haven't moved the mouse or even touched a key.
I can't repeat it under any specific conditions, it seems totally random.
Mark
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2007 : 02:13:15 AM
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I'm having the same problem. But it also happens when I'm trying to select something from the suggestion list. For example I want to select the 4th item and while moving the cursor from the 1st item down to the 4th the list closes occasionally. Sometimes I manage to move the cursor on the wanted item, but when I'm about to hit 'enter' the list disappears again, so that the 'return' is added to the source code.
VS2005, WinXP, no other add-ins.
Regards,
Marcus. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2007 : 11:47:32 AM
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Is this a new problem, or have you been seeing this problem before?
How often does this happen? all the time? 50% of the time? 1 time in 20?
I have seen suggestion listboxes disappear very occasionally, but for me this is a very rare event, and it only tends to happen just after they have appeared, not when I am trying to select something. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2007 : 3:17:09 PM
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I can't tell it exactly. It's a rather new problem, definitively >= 155x. I get it quite often, maybe once in 5 times. I'm not sure, but I have the feeling that it happens more often after switching to another file.
I'm sorry for not being of much help here. The problems I'm facing at the moment all happen occasionally, so I can't even guess what might be the reason for them.
Regards,
Marcus. |
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mtwombley
Senior Member
Canada
29 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2007 : 4:15:01 PM
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| I can't really say how often this happens. Yesterday it was happening very often (maybe 1 in 5 or more). But today I haven't seen it happen once. |
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accord
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
3287 Posts |
Posted - May 05 2007 : 12:50:24 PM
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I have faced this problem also...
I have worked with the default settings (so suggestions are not selected by default) and sometimes after I press down arrow to select an item in suggestion list, it disappears before I pressing enter.
Can't you place a lot of logging around suggestion list closing?  It is a recurring problem, and should kill it forever 
For a pattern: it may happening on certain source files, because sometimes it happening 2 times successive on the same location. |
Edited by - accord on May 05 2007 12:51:25 PM |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 07 2007 : 3:18:59 PM
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Logging has got to be worth a try. Next time someone starts seeing this happen on a regular basis can you please turn on VA's logging, reproduce the problem, and then quit the IDE to keep the log files nice and small.
This FAQ explains sending us the log files:
http://docs.wholetomato.com?W305
We can then look at the log's and see if they offer any clues. If not I will see about adding extra logging to try and pin down what is happening.
The fact this only happens some of the time suggests something is triggering this problem, but what? |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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sjaffe
Ketchup Master
USA
60 Posts |
Posted - May 08 2007 : 1:44:27 PM
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VAX 1555 in eVC 4.0: I'm seeing this fairly regularly. Seems to have started in 1555 or otherwise very near there. When I begin typing I'll get a suggestion box with the "A" symbol (autotext?), but then it almost immediately disappears. Seems to happen maybe 25% of the time(?) Another very annoying regression.
Stan |
Art is the zen of being one too
Stan |
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sjaffe
Ketchup Master
USA
60 Posts |
Posted - May 08 2007 : 2:21:11 PM
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| Update: it is happening much more often, 50-75% of the time. (It didn't start happening more, I just started paying more attention ;^) |
Art is the zen of being one too
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 09 2007 : 09:25:10 AM
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*sigh* but why, what is triggering this problem? Using win2k, EVC++4 and VA 1555 I have just typed in the following code:
static void testAutotextSuggestions()
{
true;
false;
for ()
{
}
while ()
{
}
if ()
{
}
std::string *foo = dynamic_cast<std::string *>(bar);
if(foo)
{
}
// [5/9/2007 Feline]
switch()
{
case :
break;
default:
break;
}
switch()
{
case :
break;
case :
break;
default:
break;
}
TRUE;
FALSE;
}
everything inside the function came from autotext. I left each of the autotext prompts on the screen for 1 or 2 seconds minimum, often longer, before accepting them.
None of them disappeared, and all of them were entered correctly. I should have seen at least one problem if I was seeing your problem.
Do you have any other IDE plugin's installed?
I am wondering if there is a connection with the problem you are seeing in this thread: http://forum.wholetomato.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6205
It is almost as if something is "interrupting" VA / the IDE on a regular basis. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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code42
Junior Member
20 Posts |
Posted - May 16 2007 : 09:21:07 AM
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| I've been having this problem for months now, including every version between now and then. I brought it up in a previous thread. I can't offer any ideas, but sometimes it's very bad and other times it isn't. This has to be my biggest complaint about VAX. It would be great if you could figure it out :). |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 17 2007 : 1:23:32 PM
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Which IDE are you using?
Do you have any other plugin's installed?
I am still searching for any possible clues. |
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code42
Junior Member
20 Posts |
Posted - May 21 2007 : 1:14:12 PM
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| No other plugins, using c++ in VS 2005. Latest version of VAX. |
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code42
Junior Member
20 Posts |
Posted - May 21 2007 : 1:43:13 PM
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I ran filemon to see what's going on when the suggestion list dissapears. This is what was showing up. It may be nothing important, but VAX seems to be 'querying' these 2 files a whole bunch....
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\Proj_3407375854\\mod.dt SUCCESS
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 OPEN C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Options: Open Access: All
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 QUERY INFORMATION C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS Attributes: A
12:31:59 PM devenv.exe:784 CLOSE C:\\Documents and Settings\\me\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\VisualAssist\\vs8\\CPP\\mod.dt SUCCESS
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 24 2007 : 2:28:49 PM
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I have just run filemon here, and I am seeing a lot of activity on these files as well, but I am not having any noticeable problems with my suggestion listboxes. *sigh* this is probably a red herring.
Do you work on more than one solution in VS2005? I am wondering if this problem is solution specific.
I am wondering if for some reason VA re-parsing the file is causing you a problem. This happens shortly after modifying it, so this is an event that should trigger on a regular basis while pausing typing and considering a listbox.
However this does not effect most people, so this theory only makes sense if there is something "odd" about your system. Is the code on a network drive? Or accessed via a "subst" drive letter?
I am looking for anything about your situation that might give us some clues. |
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code42
Junior Member
20 Posts |
Posted - May 24 2007 : 5:36:38 PM
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I started a new project and wrote a little code. It all works great. I couldn't get the suggestion list to go away for anything. Then I opened my existing project ( around 1000 files maybe), and the first time I tried:
'this->'
the box dissapeared after 2 seconds. I opened up another file, and did the same thing, it happened again. Maybe the problem is related to larger files? Maybe I should try opening some sort of open source project so that you can duplicate my efforts? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 25 2007 : 2:38:53 PM
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I have used suggestion list's on large projects myself and never seen them disappear like this. But obviously something is going on here.
When looking for a common project to use I tend to point people here:
http://www.codeproject.com/tools/todolist2.asp
but this may not be large enough. Still it might be a good place to start. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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mtwombley
Senior Member
Canada
29 Posts |
Posted - May 25 2007 : 2:45:40 PM
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Now this is getting crazy .
I've a really big project I'm working on (3500 files not including library references) and that is where I see it the most. I was seeing it almost every time the list opened recently. So I figured this would be a great time to generate a log.
Well you think this bug is a photon or something, as soon as I turned on the log it stopped disappearing.
Mark |
Edited by - mtwombley on May 25 2007 2:47:12 PM |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 26 2007 : 11:43:50 AM
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*sigh* various of our users work on solutions this big and bigger, I did myself for a time, and I did not have this problem. So solution size on its own should not be the problem. Of course this raises the question, what is the problem?
I really dislike bugs like this, since they are so hard to try and pin down / help with. Any clues would be gratefully received. |
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - May 29 2007 : 07:03:56 AM
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We have a solution with 22 projects and a bit less than 3000 files. I still face the problem every day, but every time I tried to reproduce it for logging reasons, it didn't showed up. The problem seems only to appear for me if I'm truly programming, i.e., if I'm coding quite eagerly. But the problem is not bound to large files. It also happens for me within header files that have only 125 lines of code.
Regards,
Marcus. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 29 2007 : 07:52:41 AM
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We should have a new build up in the next few days, can you hold on and try that one? I encountered a problem with completion listboxes disappearing on an internal build that I was able to reproduce. I am hoping that the fix for that problem, which will be in the next build will help you.
I don't know if it will or not, but it is somewhere to start. |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
5566 Posts |
Posted - May 31 2007 : 01:20:26 AM
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| Build 1557 is available to test this problem. |
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code42
Junior Member
20 Posts |
Posted - May 31 2007 : 12:38:28 PM
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| First impressions are that it works. I haven't had the problem yet. Good job! |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - May 31 2007 : 1:13:01 PM
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| I do hope this has fixed the problem! |
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2007 : 12:51:25 PM
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I've been working with 1557 for two days now. As far as I know, I didn't face the problem in this period. So I guess it's working now. Thank you! This bug was really annoying 
Regards,
Marcus. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2007 : 1:28:53 PM
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| This is excellent news. It sounded really annoying, and I was just reading about it |
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mtwombley
Senior Member
Canada
29 Posts |
Posted - Jun 06 2007 : 12:19:01 PM
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Sorry not to get back sooner. We are rushing to get our beta out.
I've been using this for about 3 days now and everything seems great.
Thanks
Mark |
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sjaffe
Ketchup Master
USA
60 Posts |
Posted - Jun 06 2007 : 1:12:39 PM
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Have been using for several days now and no problems! Thanks so much.
Stan |
Art is the zen of being one too
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sitnduck
Senior Member
47 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2009 : 10:37:16 AM
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AAArg! This is happening to us and driving us mad! The list just GOES AWAY RANDOMLY! Was this fixed in a later version? Here is ours:
VA_X.dll file version 10.4.1649.0 built 2008.09.09
DevEnv.exe version 8.0.50727.42
msenv.dll version 8.0.50727.42
Font: ProggyCleanTT 13(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 6.0.2900.2180
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
8 processors
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18943 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2009 : 12:55:22 PM
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This is not supposed to be happening in any version, certainly not 1649.
Does this happen on multiple machines?
Is there any form of pattern to this?
Which programming language are you working in?
Do you have any other IDE plugin's installed? |
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