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Mike ONeill
Tomato Guru

South Africa
103 Posts

Posted - Apr 15 2010 :  01:43:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

I see currently a 2010 RC version and the normal 2008 version, will we finish up with one version to cover all Visual Studio versions once you do te final release or will we have to keep 2 versions running ?

Mike

sean
Whole Tomato Software

USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Apr 15 2010 :  11:40:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1738 is our current general release, but does not support VS2010.

1819 is the current release candidate and it supports all IDEs. However, it has separate installers for VS2010 and all other IDEs. For IDEs other than VS2010, installation requires administrative privileges and modifies HKLM. VS2010 installation does not require administrative rights and only affects the user account of the person installing.

We are looking into producing a common install for all IDEs going forward. Until that happens, we will continue to have separate installers of the same version.

We also plan to host the VS2010-only install on the Visual Studio Gallery.

Edited by - sean on Apr 15 2010 11:43:20 AM
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Nobodo
Tomato Guru

126 Posts

Posted - Apr 15 2010 :  1:31:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally, I hope you do not integrate them. The fact that VC++6 is still supported has been quoted in several threads as the reason why the installer does not support needed items like the ability to actually use the add-in manager on VAX. If there are separate installers then perhaps these limitations could be a thing of the past?

Thanks,
Mark.
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sean
Whole Tomato Software

USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Apr 15 2010 :  1:42:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The integration we are thinking of would be more along the lines of a single download that does the two separate installs.

VC6 support will not hinder VS2010 support - as it it right now, the two installs have the same core VA dlls in them (hence the same version numbers).

The add-in manager in Visual Studio does not support HKLM installed addins per design by MS - the failure of the addin manager to be able to manage the VA addin is not due to VC6 support.

Edited by - sean on Apr 15 2010 1:42:59 PM
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Nobodo
Tomato Guru

126 Posts

Posted - Apr 15 2010 :  5:21:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quoting from the MS link that is referenced in these forums as the reason this issue exists:
quote:
"Addins that use a .addin xml file located at:
<userprofile>\\My Documents\\Visual Studio 2005\\Addins
are supported properly."


See:
http://forum.wholetomato.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8356&whichpage=1&SearchTerms=%3Cuserprofile%3E

There I ask why VAX can't add an addin xml file to the installation so the addin manager would work correctly and was told "Remember we also support VC6, which works quite differently."

Thanks,
Mark.
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sean
Whole Tomato Software

USA
2817 Posts

Posted - Apr 15 2010 :  5:41:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see. The reason we don't use the addin xml file is unrelated to vc6. I don't know if using an addin xml file would work for us in the older IDEs (we are an extension, not an addin in vs2010 so it's irrelevant there). I'm not sure if the xml file works with native COM addins. As far as I understand, that support was introduced with managed addins and we just never went there.
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