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Uniwares
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 Posted - Jun 10 2004 : 7:40:03 PM
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| When you create a new project under VC6, any type of project it seems, the Open File in Workspace dialog shows only 3 files: Stdafx.cpp, Stdafx.h, Readme.txt |
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 10 2004 : 11:37:37 PM
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One file is always missing from the OFIW dialog. On the list to fix.
Click the File heading in the OFIW dialog to reverse the sort order. You see the missing file.
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Uniwares
Tomato Guru
Portugal
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Posted - Jun 11 2004 : 01:37:28 AM
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LarryLeonard
Tomato Guru
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Posted - Jun 11 2004 : 07:24:52 AM
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Okay, let me state the obvious... shouldn't there be lots of files, not just three (or, four)? Like, say, 12 or so? Two for the app, two for the doc, two for the view, two for stdafx, two for the mainframe, an RC, RC2, and a resource.h file, for example?
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 11 2004 : 12:01:44 PM
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We create a new project in VC++ 6.0 with File|New, a "MFC AppWizard (exe)", in a new workspace and take all the defaults. We wait a few seconds for the IDE to create all files. We open our OFIW dialog and have a dozen+ files.
We intercept the "new project" command and when it completes, we reparse the project. Hmm... How could we miss something.
If you open the OFIW dialog before the project is created, or while it is being created, you get a partial list. (Clicking a column heading in the dialog prods VA X to reread the list of files in the project.) |
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LarryLeonard
Tomato Guru
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Posted - Jun 11 2004 : 8:12:32 PM
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You know, it seems like bad things can happen if we use certain VAX features before the parsing is finished. Is there any way you could disable these features until they're ready to be used? Imagine the frustration that new customers are going to have...
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 11 2004 : 8:50:15 PM
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We agree. We are likely to disable OFIW until parsing is complete.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 14 2004 : 06:28:06 AM
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could you make the parsing more obvious? for me, winXP pro, VS .NET 2003 and VAX 1239 the status bar often goes blank during parsing. after perhaps a second or two messages about parsing reappear on the status bar.
as a result i am not sure when parsing has finished...
thinking that parsing has finished, and then finding that VAX wont respond as i expect, since it is still silently parsing is rather unhelpful ;) |
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 14 2004 : 1:05:07 PM
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We agree that it would be nice if the status bar were updated more descriptively. Unfortunately, the IDE writes to the bar as well -- and we cannot interfere with its writing. The IDE does not expect we are there.
We will be as clever as we can when we solve the OFIW problem. |
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Uniwares
Tomato Guru
Portugal
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Posted - Jun 14 2004 : 7:11:11 PM
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Then just blank out the dialogs and controls, show a hint that parsing is not completed.
Or, add a status pane with progressbar to show the progress of VAX's parsing. There is lots of space in the status bar. |
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Stephen
Tomato Guru
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 15 2004 : 06:10:35 AM
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| I have a related comment. It's not even clear that the parsing messages come from VA not VS, unless one is already familiar with VS without VA. The text should indicate this somehow. |
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WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - Jun 15 2004 : 07:14:06 AM
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Maybe you should just create a small Modal DialogBox with a Progressbar in it showing the status of parsing?
My PC (P4 1.8) cannot be used when VAX parses heavily through all files/headers, so I'm sitting there useless anyway... |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 15 2004 : 08:22:11 AM
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if you have the VAX wizard bar turned on, which most people will, you could change the colour and style of the "Go" button to show that VAX is still working.
obvious enough to be clear, especially if it is explained in the documentation for new users. since this is fully under VAX's control, no conflicts. also, it has the benefit of not intruding, unlike a dialog box.
of course, if you don't use the VAX wizard bar then this is no help. anyone here turn off the wizard bar? off hand i don't see any good reason to do so. |
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 15 2004 : 7:02:21 PM
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We will look for something clever. Many of the obvious choices are unavailable since we don't own the display. We are not exactly supposed to be doing any of the stuff we do.
First on the list from this thread is improving the OFIW dialog. One option is to make the dialog unavailable until parsing is complete. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Jun 16 2004 : 07:04:00 AM
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if you make it unavailable, the instant result is going to be stream of bug reports saying that the OFIW dialog is broken... 
you either need to replace it with a message box saying "this is not available until parsing is complete, VAX is currently n% of the way through parsing this project", assuming you know how far through you are.
alternatively you could load the OFIW dialog, but put a big comment to the same effect inside, instead of the file list.
remember, you will need to do the same for the file list in VA View 
presumably the same restriction applies to the symbols in workspace as well, both on the toolbar and in VA View.
as for not supposed to be doing these things, don't own up to then  |
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Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Oct 04 2004 : 5:38:04 PM
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Fixed in build 1272.
OFIW dialog populates when parsing is done. |
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