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perrs
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  12:07:11 PM  Show Profile
How do I make the ff-sign that ends an autotext? And are there other such special symbols?

Is it possible to 'paste' in an autotext and thereby use the content of the clipholder as part of the expanded autotext?

WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  12:10:41 PM  Show Profile
a) Right now you'd need to copy & paste it from previous entries.

b) Planned for the next few builds.

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perrs
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  12:36:31 PM  Show Profile
By accident I found out that ctrl + s produces a similar to the ff-sign but with the text DC3.

Similarly, ctrl + f produces one with the text ACK.

There are also others. What is the purpose of these? Is there a description of all there meanings somewhere?
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support
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  12:59:36 PM  Show Profile
More info at:

http://www.wholetomato.com/products/features/autotext.html?more=yes&goto=definingAutotext
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perrs
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  1:37:10 PM  Show Profile
As far as I can read this page doesn't say anything about these symbols. Did you read my post properly?
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feline
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  2:32:56 PM  Show Profile
i have never seen a keyboard shortcut posted to enter these characters.

if you use VIM then you can use the "insert literal key press" option to insert the end of block character using CTLR-L. i am not sure what would happen in other text editing programs, but i am guessing this would not always be inserted into the text.

the caret position here character is producing an ASCII value of 167. off hand i don't know how you would type that into an editor.

personally i just open the tpl file in notepad, copy an existing entry (so i get the right format and these characters) then i edit it to suit my needs.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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WannabeeDeveloper
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Germany
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Posted - May 31 2005 :  4:48:59 PM  Show Profile
This FF sign does just this:
Show VAX that the next entry is beginning (or the last entry ends). Nothing more. It has no meaning other than that. Just copy one from an existing autotext-entry and paste it at the position you need it. No other purpose...

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jpizzi
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Posted - Jun 01 2005 :  12:17:12 AM  Show Profile
To type ASCII 167, hold down the <ALT> key, and type 167 on the numeric keypad.

As for what characters you get when you type <CTRL>-<something>, just look at an ASCII table at the entries below decimal 26. Each <CTRL>-<something> corresponds to the ASCII entry for that character position (A is 1, B is 2, etc.).

Joe Pizzi
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perrs
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Posted - Jun 01 2005 :  04:07:35 AM  Show Profile
I tried looking at an ASCII table concerning those special symbols, but it was not the same as I got in the autotext editor. Besides, I'm still curious to what they mean.
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WannabeeDeveloper
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Posted - Jun 01 2005 :  04:26:57 AM  Show Profile
VAX uses Neil Hodgsons Scintilla (http://www.scintilla.org/) Editor.
You could ask him why he chose those FF for some "non-printable" chars and what they mean.

In VAX, they have just one meaning, which I explained above.

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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 01 2005 :  2:05:51 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jpizzi

To type ASCII 167, hold down the <ALT> key, and type 167 on the numeric keypad.


*doh* normally i remember you can do that

perrs is WannabeeDeveloper's explanation making sense? these characters have no meaning, other than saying "put caret here" and "the rule stops here"

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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