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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
 Posted - Nov 07 2005 : 06:03:12 AM
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Hello,
I've a problematic file that is causing devenv to use 100%.
Looking at the devenv call stack, the function causing cpu hog is va_x_dll!MigrateDevColor+0xabb75.
The particular file in question is 1300 lines long and for each line there is a macro used to define a particular value.
For example:
#define kHe_MyPrefix RezLong(0x12F00)
DECLARE_PMID( kClassIDSpace, kHe_myBoss, kHe_MyPrefix + 77 )
where the macro is DECLARE_PMID of course and it will define the kHe_myBoss as an int32.
I've just upgraded to this latest beta (waiting for the new version to be released to renew my license).
This is a long standing issue I have with Visual Assist...I just found a workaround to have devenv exit gracefully, you have to switch to another application, devenv will release the cpu and then you have to click on X of the problematic file.
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VA_X.dll file version 10.1.1428.0 built 2005.10.19
Licensed to:
VA X:
VA.NET 7.1:
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.3.0
VATE.dll version 1.0.4.2
DevEnv.exe version 7.10.3077.0
msenv.dll version 7.10.3077.0
Font: ProFontWindows 15(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 5.82.2900.2180
WindowsNT 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Single processor
Platform: Win32
Stable Includes:
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\atlmfc\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\PlatformSDK\\include\\prerelease;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\PlatformSDK\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\SDK\\v1.1\\include;
Library Includes:
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\mfc;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\atl;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\\Vc7\\crt\\src;
Other Includes:
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2005 : 3:00:04 PM
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are you able to email a copy of this file to [email protected] ? or even better host it somewhere so that i can download it and try it myself?
i have just copied and pasted your two line macro into a cpp file many times, giving me a 2000 line cpp file which is basically a long series of repeats of this macro, and VA is fine with it. this is using VS 2003 and VA 1428.
it could require more variety in the macro lines, or it could require some related header files which hold the definition of DECLARE_PMID to reproduce this problem. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2005 : 4:07:37 PM
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Unfortunately I cannot provide you a copy of this file because it is part of the company's products.
However, it is an InDesign plugin project, you could download the sdk from http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/indesign/sdk/index.html#aidcs41
which contain same samples. I was not able to reproduce the problem with the samples by themself but having some of these samples added to a solution and opening that large file then opening the xxxID.h files of those sample projects will cause the cpu hog behavior showed before.
I can provide the logs for that behaviour if you need it.
regards,
- mn |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Nov 07 2005 : 5:01:25 PM
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hopefully logs will help. can you please email them to [email protected] , referencing both this thread and the one about the IDE hanging. by the sounds of it the two behaviours are linked.
if you could provide log files for both problems that would be even better. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - Dec 16 2005 : 05:48:17 AM
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I've upgrade to the trial of the lastest build 1437 but I still have the same problem....
It would be wonderful for me if I can have a filter to filter out such files from being parsed by visual assist, it sounds as a reasonable workaround for this problem.
Regards,
- mn |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Dec 17 2005 : 6:14:49 PM
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when you say filter out certain files, are you talking about files from the adobe SDK? if so, then depending on how your solution is setup it may be possible to not tell VA about the SDK, so it will not automatically parse it.
looking at your configuration information from the first post i am not spotting a directory that sounds like it holds this SDK, so do you have the SDK files included as a project in your main solution? if so then VA should parse all of these files, along with the rest of your code.
can you email the log files of this problem to [email protected] please, referencing this thread?
you might also want to try VA 1438, since this contains a fix for boost headers that might just help in your case. |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2005 : 08:05:01 AM
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I was meaning to filter out files with specific filenames. Such files are part of our projects and I need to edit them but each time I try to edit them I have to use an external editor because of the lockup.
- mn |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
5566 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2005 : 10:05:32 AM
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We prefer to solve the parsing problem; we won't provide functionality in VA X to avoid specific files. That said... your Adobe SDK should be in the list of Stable include files in the VA X options dialog. This happen automatically if they are in the right place in the IDE settings. When considered stable, VA X parses the files once in a while, i.e. not every time you open your project.
http://www.wholetomato.com/products/features/directories.html?more=yes |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2005 : 6:27:56 PM
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i am downloading the 4.0.2 version of the SDK at the moment to see if i can reproduce this problem.
in your original post you referenced a sample macro:
quote:
Originally posted by mnd
#define kHe_MyPrefix RezLong(0x12F00)
DECLARE_PMID( kClassIDSpace, kHe_myBoss, kHe_MyPrefix + 77 )
in this macro what are "kClassIDSpace", "kHe_myBoss" and "kHe_MyPrefix"?
can i simply define these as int's, or some other basic type? so long as my macro lines are vaguely close to what you are using i am hoping to be able to reproduce this. |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - Dec 19 2005 : 03:31:08 AM
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well, there are some samples included in the sdk, the project files are located into build\\win\\sdkprj folder while the sources are in source\\sdksamples. Those macro you were mentioning are the macro that defines some ID, if you look at one xxxxxID.h file you will see how they are defined.
I've to say that with the samples I don't have the same beahaviour...but I tried to only open them, I never really worked with them. By looking at the logs produced with both our projects and the samples projects I can see that in our case we have line like this:
MaxtimerMainthread
(1485 s)
MaxTimeHit time 1485, avg 0, max 1485, tot 2001, count 2181 for OnTimerTimer
MKResize
(15 s)
MaxtimerMainthread
MaxTimeHit time 1531, avg 7, max 1531, tot 2862, count 392 for OnTimerTimer_Total 131
MaxtimerMainthread
(3109 s)
MaxTimeHit time 3109, avg 2, max 3109, tot 5125, count 2199 for OnTimerTimer
MKResize
(16 s)
MaxtimerMainthread
MaxTimeHit time 3172, avg 15, max 3172, tot 6034, count 394 for OnTimerTimer_Total 131
MaxtimerMainthread
(3125 s)
MaxTimeHit time 3125, avg 3, max 3125, tot 8266, count 2388 for OnTimerTimer
MKResize
(16 s)
MaxtimerMainthread
MaxTimeHit time 3188, avg 21, max 3188, tot 9347, count 439 for OnTimerTimer_Total 151
while for the samples I don't have any of them.
I've tried to insert the sdk includes directory to the stable files, it did help a little now it look the ide for 3 or 4 seconds out if I use page up or page down (or if I move faster in the file trough cursors) to move inside the file, I still get those hang.
regards,
- mn
VA_X.dll file version 10.2.1438.0 built 2005.12.16
Licensed to:
VA X: [email protected] (1-user license) Support ends 2005.07.22
VA.NET 7.1:
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.1.9
VATE.dll version 1.0.4.11
DevEnv.exe version 7.10.3077.0
msenv.dll version 7.10.3077.0
Font: ProFontWindows 15(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 5.82.2900.2180
WindowsNT 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Single processor
Platform: Custom
Stable Includes:
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\include;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\atlmfc\\include;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\PlatformSDK\\include\\prerelease;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\PlatformSDK\\include;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\sdk\\v1.1\\include;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\includes;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\architecture;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\cjk;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\colormgmt;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\graphics;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\incopy;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\interactive;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\interactive\\ui;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\layout;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\tables;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\text;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\ui;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\utils;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\workgroup;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\xmedia;
C:\\build\\main103\\src\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\widgets\\includes;
Library Includes:
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\mfc;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\atl;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\crt\\src;
Other Includes:
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Dec 20 2005 : 6:55:56 PM
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i have the Adobe SDK installed on a test system along with VS2003 and VA 1438 and i have setup my stable include files in VA to match yours, allowing for the fact the SDK is installed in a different directory.
i have ended up in the file:
C:\\Adobe\\Adobe InDesign CS2 4.0.2 Products SDK\\source\\sdksamples\\basicdialog\\BscDlgID.h
picking something at random from the samples that has the "DECLARE_PMID" macro in it. i have got as far as there is something odd going on involving the file "BscDlg.fr", which looks like C++ code on a quick glance and seems to be associated with this "DECLARE_PMID" macro.
assuming i know nothing about the Adobe SDK and don't want to learn just yet, what is the minimum i need to know to add a file containing a few thousand calls to the ""DECLARE_PMID" macro, in such a way that the values i pass into the macro will be resolved correctly by VA? or at least resolved well enough to reproduce this bug. |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - Dec 21 2005 : 03:18:10 AM
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Hi, first of all thanks for taking time in verifing this problem.
You don't have to add another file, you have to modify an existing xxxID.h file like the one you opened. As you can see that macro will define a number (based on the parameter), I sugest to open ID-4.0\\source\\sdksamples\\snippetrunner\\SnipRunID.h which contains all the different types of "define" you can have. To add more you can just duplicate an existing entry, change the name and increase the number, for example, if you have:
DECLARE_PMID(kImplementationIDSpace, kSnipRunErrorStringServiceImpl, kSnipRunPrefix + 28)
to create a new one you can write:
DECLARE_PMID(kImplementationIDSpace, kSnipRunErrorStringServiceImpl2, kSnipRunPrefix + 29)
and so on.
I've to say that after two days of usage with the directory added to the stable files I can say that the issue has been improved, devenv will not hang completely but it will just use 100% cpu for only 2-3 seconds after you open one of these file (and if you move with pageup / page down to see a different part of the file it will lock up again for 2-3 seconds).
Another thing worth mentioning is that I've a solution with 40 of these projects, all of them with pretty much complex xxxID.h files....
regards,
- mn
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Dec 21 2005 : 2:42:48 PM
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very clear instructions, thank you :)
the original version of this file has 98 lines beginning with the text "DECLARE_PMID"
my modified version of the file has 2898
opening this file on its own in VS2003 is producing a CPU spike, but nothing that seems to cause a problem. the CPU does jump to 100% as i page down through the rather long file the first time, but i am still scrolling at full speed. how close to your experience is this?
i have sent an email to the email listed a couple of posts up with my test file attached. can you try the same test and see what happens on your machine? it is possible that having the files as part of a solution is important to reproducing this. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - Dec 23 2005 : 03:47:55 AM
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Hello,
I tried the file you sent me, I've added to a project of mine.
I've to see that I see the cpu spinning to 100% but it does it for just 1 second opening the file and I can see the cpu spinning also when moving trough the file but for less than half a second (or less) so from my testing I can see that the behaviour I can see it still visible with that file however since that file is not included in any of the file of my projects that cpu spin for less time.
As I said before adding the sdk include folders to the stable folders helped a lot and now the problem is only visible in a couple of those files that are being referenced by almost all the projects in the solution (40 projects for almost 2545 files).
I've never say that but I use it on a laptop 2GHz (no hyper) with 2gb of ram, so it's not a super fast desktop.
- mn
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2005 : 3:12:33 PM
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i got there finally. sorry for the delay, things have been busy at my end with Christmas and other things. removing the SDK files from the stable includes gave me a 100% CPU for 25 minutes on opening the file i sent you, before i got fed up and killed off the IDE.
case=947
i am hoping that fixing this problem will fix the problem you are experiencing with your files. |
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Edited by - feline on Dec 30 2005 3:13:03 PM |
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Rain Dog
Ketchup Master
88 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 03:09:35 AM
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| I've experienced this problem when trying to use Loki typelist macros. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 1:04:05 PM
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| what are "Loki typelist macros"? i have done a quick web search, but nothing that seems relevant to this is popping up. if they are a feature of the Adobe SDK then i have probably never heard of them, since i only looked at the SDK files long enough to try and reproduce this specific problem. |
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Rain Dog
Ketchup Master
88 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 4:50:13 PM
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http://erdani.org/book/main.html
Loki is a C++ library that makes intensive usage of templates. In fact,when it was first released, I do not believe that there was a compiler that could compile all of the code even though it was standards conforming.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - Jan 03 2006 : 4:07:51 PM
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i have downloaded and installed loki 0.1.2 from sourceforge.net
could you post a small piece of sample code to illustrate the problem you are having? |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
5566 Posts |
Posted - Jan 19 2006 : 12:51:28 AM
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| Case 947 is fixed in 1440. |
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kinook
Senior Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - Jan 23 2006 : 11:41:00 AM
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| I'm experiencing similar behavior for one of my solutions in build 1440. Opening almost any file in a project of the solution and navigating around in it will cause the CPU to peg in thread va_x.dll!MigrateDevColor+0xaccb5 for 20 to 60 seconds, rendering the IDE unusable during that time. The problem occurs whether or not enhanced syntax coloring is enabled. The problem did not occur in the previous build I was using (1301). I'm sending a performance log and a couple of the affected header files. |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
5566 Posts |
Posted - Feb 13 2006 : 11:57:14 AM
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We isolated kinook's bug using his help via email. Certain templates caused IDE to slow.
The fix will be in the next build.
case=989 |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
5566 Posts |
Posted - Mar 07 2006 : 6:25:50 PM
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Parsing of certain templates no longer slows IDE in build 1442.
Parsing of Loki is fixed as well.
cases 965 and 984. |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2007 : 04:24:15 AM
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Starting with build 1544 (or 1543, I can't remember well) I'm still exeperiencing the problem!
It is not usable anymore....I'm experiencing those spikes (100%) on the cpu that is preventing the editing to be fluent.
VA_X.dll file version 10.3.1555.0 built 2007.04.26
Licensed to:
VA X: [email protected] (1-user license) Support ends 2008.03.07
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.2.0
VATE.dll version 1.0.5.4
DevEnv.exe version 7.10.3077.0
msenv.dll version 7.10.3077.0
Font: Consolas 13(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 5.82.2900.2982
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Single processor
Platform: Custom
Stable Includes:
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\include;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\atlmfc\\include;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\PlatformSDK\\include\\prerelease;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\PlatformSDK\\include;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\sdk\\v1.1\\include;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\includes;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\architecture;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\cjk;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\colormgmt;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\graphics;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\incopy;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\interactive;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\interactive\\ui;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\layout;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\tables;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\text;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\ui;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\utils;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\workgroup;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\interfaces\\xmedia;
C:\\build\\tayen\\int\\contrib\\Adobe\\InDesign\\ID-4.0\\source\\public\\hlaincludes;
Library Includes:
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\mfc;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\atl;
c:\\program files\\microsoft visual studio .net 2003\\vc7\\crt\\src;
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2007 : 08:42:50 AM
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I'm also facing some performance problems with 1555. Scrolling through the code is extremely slow! If I constantly scroll my mouse wheel up and down I also get a CPU usage of 100%. I'm using VS2005, Win XP, no other add-ins.
Regards,
Marcus.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2007 : 10:31:43 AM
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Are you two getting this problem with all code, or only with some files? Normally these problems are tied to specific files, normally very heavy template code.
Is there any chance of getting a single file for testing purposes that demonstrates the problem? |
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2007 : 11:02:55 AM
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The code I'm working on has not many templates, just some STL containers. The files are not even very large. It seems to happen on all files. My impression was that the IDE got slower and slower with the time. I restarted the IDE and now its working better. I'll keep an eye on it if it happens again.
Regards,
Marcus. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
18939 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2007 : 11:08:54 AM
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Have you disabled the IDE's intellisense? It is very tempting to blame this problem on the IDE its self, and not VA, since VS2005's intellisense parser is behind a lot of speed problems people have.
mnd since you are using VS2003 this is unlikely to be the problem, but could you try closing the IDE and deleting the NCB file in the root directory of your solution, just to see if this makes any difference? |
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khb
Tomato Guru
Germany
337 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2007 : 12:52:18 PM
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I always have the IDE's intellisense enabled. Of course, something could have gone wrong with the IDE. But it happend the first time for me today, that it got that slow. If it happens again I will try disabling the IDE's intellisense. Thanks for the tip!
Regards,
Marcus. |
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mackomilos
Senior Member
35 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2007 : 04:46:58 AM
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| Just for the information (that this problem isn't related only to khb), I'm encountering exactly same issues. After some period of time the IDE becomes slower and slower (there is a problem also with small files, about 70 lines), only restarting the IDE helps (with NCB file deletion). Today I completely turned the intellisense off, I'll post the result whether it helps or not. |
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mnd
Senior Member
42 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2007 : 07:43:31 AM
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Hi,
I have the problem with all the files I'm using.
You can see from the start of this thread which kind of files I'm using.
All the files use a lot of template (defined in the SDK) and a lot of macro (also defined in the SDK).
I can also confirm that build 1544 does not exhibit the problem, in fact I have switched back to 1544 because it was impossible to work with those spikes.
Kindest Regards,
- mn
P.S.
of course I've not changed Visual Studio preferences before (or after) the switch to 1544 so it shouldn't be a problem with NCB, intellisense or whatever because 1544 is unaffected. |
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Visual Assist uses 100% cpu
