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Simon
Junior Member
Germany
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 Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 03:07:58 AM
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Hi,
since I switched from version 1540 to 1544 my studio 2005 freezes occasionally for 1-2 seconds.
My colleague encountered the same problem.
Best regards,
Simon |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 2:37:02 PM
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That should not happen. As a first step can you try disabling the IDE's intellisense parser please, and see if this makes any difference:
http://docs.wholetomato.com?W133
If this does not help can you please go to:
VA Options -> About -> Copy Info
and paste the details (from the clipboard) into this thread. This will give us the basic information about your setup. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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daves
New Member
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 6:09:20 PM
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Me too.
I disabled default intellisense by renaming the dll, it didn't seem to help much.
I usually notice this when I open a new file and start scrolling around it in, all of vs2005 freezes for about a second. There is nothing displayed on the bottom status bar during the freezes (VAX isnt parsing or anything).
VA_X.dll file version 10.3.1544.0 built 2007.01.10
Licensed to:
VA X: XXX
VA.NET 7.1: XXXX
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.4.2
VATE.dll version 1.0.5.6
DevEnv.exe version 8.0.50727.762
msenv.dll version 8.0.50727.762
Font: Courier New 13(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 6.0.2900.2982
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
2 processors
Platform: Win32
Stable Includes:
C:\\Program Files\\Codejock Software\\MFC\\Xtreme ToolkitPro v10.4.1\\Source;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\atlmfc\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\PlatformSDK\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\SDK\\v2.0\\include;
C:\\Program Files\\Rogue Wave\\Stingray Studio 2006\\RWUXTheme\\Include;
C:\\Program Files\\Rogue Wave\\Stingray Studio 2006\\Include;
C:\\Program Files\\Rogue Wave\\Stingray Studio 2006\\Regex\\include;
Library Includes:
C:\\Program Files\\Codejock Software\\MFC\\Xtreme ToolkitPro v10.4.1\\Source;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\atlmfc\\src\\mfc;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\atlmfc\\src\\mfcm;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\atlmfc\\src\\atl;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\VC\\crt\\src;
Other Includes:
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torokze
Junior Member
Hungary
12 Posts |
Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 01:08:58 AM
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I have the same situation.
I had to reinstall the 1543 build.
The 1544 makes my work nerve-racking.
About info from 1543.
The 1544 is the same as above.
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VA_X.dll file version 10.3.1543.0 built 2006.12.19
Licensed to:
VA X: zoltan.torok@xxxxxxx (1-user license) Support ends 2007.07.05
VAOpsWin.dll version 1.3.4.1
VATE.dll version 1.0.5.5
DevEnv.exe version 7.0.9466.0
msenv.dll version 7.0.9466.0
Font: DejaVu Sans Mono 12(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 5.82.2900.2982
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Szervizcsomag 2
2 processors
Platform: Win32
Stable Includes:
P:\\microsoft\\ws2003r2_psdk\\Include;
P:\\microsoft\\vc\\dotnet2002\\Vc7\\include;
P:\\microsoft\\vc\\dotnet2002\\Vc7\\atlmfc\\include;
P:\\microsoft\\vc\\dotnet2002\\FrameworkSDK\\include;
Library Includes:
P:\\microsoft\\vc\\dotnet2002\\Vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\mfc;
P:\\microsoft\\vc\\dotnet2002\\Vc7\\atlmfc\\src\\atl;
P:\\microsoft\\vc\\dotnet2002\\Vc7\\crt\\src;
Other Includes:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards,
Zolt+?n T+?r+?k
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Edited by - torokze on Feb 23 2007 01:18:31 AM |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
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torokze
Junior Member
Hungary
12 Posts |
Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 04:31:36 AM
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Sometimes still hangs for a few secs after opening a file.
Not always. The file size doesn't maters.
I've checked the cpu with Sysinternals ProcExp and there is a peak (devenv.exe) when the hang occurs.
The document switching doesn't causes this.
This hanging problem occurs only after opening a file. |
Edited by - torokze on Feb 24 2007 11:25:46 AM |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 3:21:00 PM
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torokze have you disabled the IDE's intellisense on your system? If not can you please try this?
What language are you programming in?
When you open the files, how are you doing this? Are you using File -> Open, or are you selecting the files from OFIW, or from Solution Explorer?
Are these files part of the solution?
It is almost as if VA is parsing the files when you open them, and the parser is causing this slow down, but it should not have this much impact on your system.
Do you see this with all files, or only some of them?
Does the file size make any difference? What about a 5 line dummy file with no real code in it? |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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torokze
Junior Member
Hungary
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Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 12:43:31 AM
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> torokze have you disabled the IDE's intellisense on your system?
> If not can you please try this?
Of course. I have renamed that dll. And turned off in MSDEV.
> What language are you programming in?
C/C++
> When you open the files, how are you doing this?
> Are you using File -> Open, or are you selecting the files
> from OFIW, or from Solution Explorer?
Solution explorer
> Are these files part of the solution?
Yes
> It is almost as if VA is parsing the files when you open them,
> and the parser is causing this slow down, but it should
> not have this much impact on your system.
> Do you see this with all files, or only some of them?
With 1544 all files was affected. With 1548 I've checked just a few but they were affected.
> Does the file size make any difference?
> What about a 5 line dummy file with no real code in it?
No. There are small files in the solution (40-100 lines) and bigger (> 1000) files. All kind of file (header, source) affected.
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Edited by - torokze on Feb 26 2007 01:11:57 AM |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 1:19:49 PM
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Clearly this should not be happening. Looking back over this thread you said:
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Originally posted by torokze
I have the same situation.
I had to reinstall the 1543 build.
The 1544 makes my work nerve-racking.
Does this problem only show up with 1544 and 1548? I think so, but I am just double checking.
In VA's options -> Quick Config can you try setting all 4 items to "Min" please, and see if this has any effect on this problem?
The only odd thing I noticed about your system was all the path's pointing at P:
Is this a network, mapped or local drive? It is quite a high letter for a local drive. |
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torokze
Junior Member
Hungary
12 Posts |
Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 02:16:17 AM
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> Clearly this should not be happening.
It happens both 1544 and 1548.
I've sent a flash movie to you about this.
> The only odd thing I noticed about your system was all the path's pointing at P:
> Is this a network, mapped or local drive?
> It is quite a high letter for a local drive.
I have 2 hard drives. One for the system (C).
The second one partitioned and the drive letters reassigned.
P for programs, T for temp, etc... |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 12:02:21 PM
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| Thank you for the movie, I have replied to your email. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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torokze
Junior Member
Hungary
12 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2007 : 07:50:37 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by feline
That should not happen. As a first step can you try disabling the IDE's intellisense parser please, and see if this makes any difference:
http://docs.wholetomato.com?W133
You suggest that rename that dll.
WARNING! If you rename that dll the built-in class view stops working!!
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Mar 02 2007 : 09:21:01 AM
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This is a known side effect, since the IDE's class viewer relies on the IDE's intellisense system.
I only suggested this to see if it would help, some performance problems people have are caused by the IDE's intellisense parser, but not all of them. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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sean
Whole Tomato Software
USA
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Posted - Mar 02 2007 : 3:18:20 PM
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| the freeze is case=5298 |
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jka
New Member
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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 09:00:42 AM
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| Exactly the same thing here (1548). For me, hangs also still happen just when moving the cursor around in the text editor, not only when opening files. I monitored what is happening during these hangs using Sysinternal's ProcessMonitor. I can post the output here if you like but it's pretty long. Seems though that VAX is constantly reading from startup.log (which is about 3MB on my system). May this be the problem? What is it doing this for? |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 10:16:22 AM
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Are you seeing this in all files, or only some files?
Are you only seeing this in large files, perhaps 20,000 lines long or longer?
I have emailed you about this. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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jfreeman
Junior Member
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Posted - Mar 16 2007 : 8:40:14 PM
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I'm seeing the same problem. It seemed to start after I upgraded from 1544 to 1548. Running dualcore CPU, W2K, VS2005 SP1, using C++. IDE freezes for about 5 seconds a short time after opening a file, or switching to an open file after doing some editing of various files. Often does several cycles of this 5 second freeze with random delays in between. It's hard to pin down the conditions; seems somewhat random.
File sizes range from a few hundred lines to a few thousand lines. Project has maybe 100 files.
Sometimes it's irritating enough I often shut off VA-X so I can edit/navigate around! |
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jfreeman
Junior Member
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Posted - Mar 16 2007 : 8:41:40 PM
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| Sorry, just in case it matters in last message I meant WinXP SP2, not Win2K. |
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support
Whole Tomato Software
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Posted - Mar 17 2007 : 4:05:11 PM
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| Case 5298 is fixed in build 1549. |
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nkrishnan
New Member
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Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 5:53:52 PM
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Hi, I am running into the same performance problem with the IDE freezing up - I am using VAX version 1548 and VAX is absolutely unusable for me at this point. I have already disabled Intellisense in every way imaginable (deleted the .dll, disabled the checkbox, restarted the IDE etc.)
The moderator seems to indicate this issue is fixed in version 1549. Has anyone verified this? Can the moderator comment briefly on what the issue really was and if a workaround exists for users of version 1548?
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kcsasquatch
New Member
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Simon
Junior Member
Germany
16 Posts |
Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 04:30:30 AM
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Hi,
I also installed version 1549 and up to now the problem did not occur again.
Best regards,
Simon |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 09:46:03 AM
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nkrishnan the main problem was caused by the way VA parsed included header files that used templates. The fix has been tested successfully by several different people using 1548, and has now been released in 1549.
If 1549 does not fix your problem then you are seeing a separate problem, but can you try 1549 first, since it should fix this:
http://www.wholetomato.com/downloads/VA_X_Setup1549.exe |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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nkrishnan
New Member
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Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 09:49:01 AM
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| Yes, the issue seems to be resolved in 1549. Thanks for the response. |
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ian.bevan
New Member
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Posted - Mar 25 2007 : 8:46:25 PM
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I still have this problem with 1549. I am a c# user and have really noticed it since installing the January version of VAX and VS2005 SP1 at the same time (yeah, probably I should have done both at the same time). I am getting very little CPU activity but absolutely huge amounts of disk activity. I have a dual core machine too if that helps. I have disabled the built-in intellisense, it made no difference.
Specific symptoms: I open a solution with about 6 projects in it (3 web, 2 C# class libraries and an Nunit.NET project). The whole IDE is incredibly unresponsive for a couple of minutes - to the point where it is most certainly unusable. Other programs on the machine are OK, but slowed by the huge amount of disk activity. Disabling VAX fixes the problem.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Mar 26 2007 : 2:23:39 PM
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How did you disable the IDE's intellisense? We don't recommend this for C# since VA gets some of its information from the IDE's intellisense in C#.
Is there any pattern to this problem?
Does it only happen when you type? Does changing files trigger it?
As a first step can you try rebuilding your symbol database, to see if this helps:
VA Options -> Performance -> General -> Rebuild symbol databases
You will need to restart the IDE, and then wait a little while for VA to parse the code after doing this. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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ian.bevan
New Member
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Posted - Mar 26 2007 : 8:11:21 PM
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| It seems my blaming VA was hasty. Further analysis with FileMon showed that VS2005 was writing to a file called expansionsxml.xml hundreds of times per second. Renaming the file fixed the problem. |
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feline
Whole Tomato Software
United Kingdom
19021 Posts |
Posted - Mar 27 2007 : 07:47:36 AM
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| I am glad it was not VA causing this problem. Thank you for the update, hopefully this will help someone else in the future. |
zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness |
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Visual Studio 2005 freezes with 10.3.1544.0
